凤凰卫视主持人朱梓橦：Um, Do you think there is an awareness issue with the public? Are people getting used to the idea of wearing masks（您认为公众是否存在意识问题?人们习惯戴口罩了吗?）全球化智库高级研究员Andy Mok（莫天安）：So this question of whether mask should be worn or not is a very interesting one. And it has many facets to it. So clearly the consensus is changing. So in asia, for various reasons, wearing a mask is seen almost as a social norm. So it’s hard to see anywhere. I’ve been in airports around asia, shopping centers, office buildings. It’s very rare to see anybody not wearing a mask. In the US, it’s almost the opposite. And in fact, people that wear mask are sometimes stigmatized, maybe even directly criticized or sometimes even physically attacked for where are the mask?（在亚洲，由于种种原因，戴口罩几乎被视为一种社会规范。在美国，戴口罩的人有时会受到蔑视，甚至会受到直接批评，甚至有时会因为戴口罩而受到人身攻击。）And there are different reasons behind this. But I think the first step is official government guidance. We can see here that still that the federal government has not clearly come out one way or the other. We think the latest headlines are that the white house where the federal government is considering advising people to wear mask. Now, to me this is a little bit . And even with a seemingly simple decision, it seems like the US is struggling with a view of what to do.（这背后有不同的原因。但是，我认为第一步理所当然的是政府的官方指导。我们仍然可以看到，联邦政府并没有明确地表明自己的立场，最新的头条新闻是联邦政府所在的白宫正在考虑建议人们戴口罩。即使是一个看似简单的决定，美国似乎也在苦苦思索该怎么做。）胡玲：你看从中国成功地控制了第一阶段的疫情发展，到整个东亚在这次防控当中都做得相当好，也有一些学者在总结这样的一些防控的经验，就包括说这种体制的动员力，还有这种体制的强化力，您会如何来看待呢？国务院发展研究中心世界发展研究所研究员丁一凡：东亚社会已经习惯了这样的集体生活了，所以东亚社会在这些问题上一直做得比较好。如果你把历史看长一点来说，在历史上曾经有过多次这种大型的瘟疫，比如说黑死病、鼠疫，曾经也是从欧洲到亚洲，然后中国就是比他们处理得好。中国人知道一发生瘟疫的时候，应该怎么做，应该自我隔离。孔子的那个时代，春秋战国的时代，他的学生病了，孔子去了，就在外头把一个作揖，从那个时候。从那个时候我们就有这个习惯，知道就是怎么样对付这样的事的时候，中国人很早就发明了，要烧水喝，生水是不能喝的。而在欧洲，他们从来都是井水打上来就喝，然后过去在瘟疫流行的年代，他们那一死就是几千万人的死亡。所以，生活习惯，社会组织，社会制度，都起很大的作用。朱梓橦：So the majority of the population in certain countries just don’t seem to care as much. They don’t care about wearing masks and they think it’s no big deal. Right? Even president trump comments such as these. But in east asia, people have a much better attitude about mask. Wary about complying with travel restrictions and people more understanding the government’s policies.（一些国家的大多数人似乎并不那么在乎这个病毒。他们不在乎戴不戴口罩，觉得没什么大不了的。对吗？就连特朗普总统也发表了这样的评论。但在东亚，人们对戴口罩要更加重视，也更加遵守旅行限制。人们也更理解政府的政策。）全球化智库高级研究员、前美国ABC电视网络副总裁、CGTN特邀评论员Harvey Dzodin：In 1992, there was a famous book, co manner of Mars, and women are from Venus. I’m mentioning that because we have the same distinctions between Asian cultures and let’s say American or some western cultures in the your region of the world. You’re a confusion or oriented societies. You have a great respect for authority for leadership and so on. You’ve had for thousands of years in America, we’re more typified by our American president of hundred and 20 years ago theater, roosevelt, who was called a rugged individualist. So we worship individualism（1992年，有一本著名的书《男人来自火星，女人来自金星》。我之所以提到这一点，是因为这和亚洲文化和美国等一些西方文化之间存在的差异很相似。在你们的地区，是一个崇尚儒家思想的东方社会。你们非常尊重权威，尊重领导等，这是几千年来延续的。在美国，更典型的是120年前的美国总统西奥多·罗斯福，他被称为“粗犷的个人主义者”。所以我们崇尚个人主义。）全球化智库（CCG）国际专家委员会主任，英国东亚委员会秘书长Alistair Michie：those Asian countries with this confusion culture, people are much more open to accepting that they have to act together to meet a common crisis. And in addition, they are much more open to taking in an emergency situation, very stringent directives from their government that does not happen in europe and North America, which I think explains why europe and North America and the high income countries have been much slower to react to this crisis than what has happened in Asia and China.the eu countries are not acting in cohesion at the moment. It’s tilly appealed for help. None of the other EU countries would support it.That is the kind of change in mindset of open minus humanitarian approach is crucial if this pandemic is going to be successfully conquered by the world.（那些拥有儒家文化的亚洲国家，人们更愿意接受他们必须一起行动来应对共同的危机。此外，他们更愿意在紧急情况下接受来自其政府的非常严格的指令，这在欧洲和北美是不会发生的。我认为这解释了为什么欧洲、北美和高收入国家对这场危机的反应要比亚洲和中国慢得多。欧盟国家目前并没有凝聚力。意大利一直在寻求帮助，没有欧盟国家支持它。思维方式需要改变为开放的，如果世界要成功地征服这场疫情，人道主义的做法是至关重要的。）
